How To Get ROI | ROI Podcast™ ep. 483 | Law Smith @LawSmithWorks & Eric Readinger

ROI! ROI Podcast™ hosted by Law Smith @LawSmithWorks and Eric Readinger... Here's the episode description we fo sho wrote and not a tool:

Dive into the world of AI-driven innovation with Law Smith and Eric Readinger as they explore game-changing tech tools that are transforming business, creativity, and productivity. In this episode, discover insider tips on using AI for tax preparation, website creation, content generation, and entrepreneurial strategies. From navigating complex tax software to leveraging cutting-edge AI platforms like ChatGPT and Suno, this podcast offers practical insights for entrepreneurs, creators, and tech enthusiasts looking to stay ahead of the curve. Learn how to streamline your workflow, generate unique content, and unlock new possibilities in the digital landscape – all with a side of humor and real-world experience. How to create a bionic man, the demise of their YouTube channel, and the challenges of doing taxes. Law Smith announced headlining comedy shows at St Pete Beach and Clearwater. They discussed using AI tools like Web.ai, Modify.ai, and ChatGPT for website creation, image generation, and tax assistance. They also mentioned the need to rebrand their podcast and the potential of using Patreon for support. Additionally, they shared personal anecdotes, including Law Smith's preparation for comedy shows and their experiences with AI and historical maps.

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Speaker 1 0:00

We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man everything

Unknown Speaker 0:10

was before, better, stronger, faster.

Unknown Speaker 0:18

Stop whining. I'm

Speaker 1 0:23

gonna die. Oh yeah, you're gonna cry. You're gonna cry. Kitty baby's crying.

Unknown Speaker 0:35

It's gonna be metal. It's going to be mental. That's

Unknown Speaker 0:41

the end of the end of the song.

Law Smith 0:43

Oh no, don't play it again, please. One more time from the top, it sounds like two robots having sex. Thank you. And now we're demonetized on YouTube. Great. Yeah, thanks a lot. Not that we've ever really been

Eric Readinger 0:56

monetized. The thing sucks. Might as well

Law Smith 0:59

well. We might as well talk about COVID and trans and what are the other things they don't like? I don't know. Man, it's not we tried to do the good boy clock for a while. You didn't make

Unknown Speaker 1:09

one minute. Okay.

Law Smith 1:11

Oh, I know, because that opening. Oh, right. So dirty, not bad. But if you are listening to this, if you can hear us in between your ears right now, and your in your

Speaker 2 1:25

ears, your holes in the holes on your face, between your ears is your your hand on

Law Smith 1:31

the side of your face, where those holes are, and they bring in noise. If you're if you can hear us through those Why don't you go and give us a lot. Oh, five star review for how much, how good we are, how good this shows become. Oh, my God,

Unknown Speaker 1:47

if we did do overs, this would be a do over.

Law Smith 1:49

No way. I'll keep it all in. I know, warts and all, I know I got some stuff I actually wrote down. I go, all right, I'm going to prepare while I'm on the Stairmaster watching the masters. Oh,

Eric Readinger 2:04

double masters. Was anybody? Were they? Like, I get it the Stairmaster watching, and

Law Smith 2:12

you're a master, I get it Vader, yeah, yeah. That's the kind of comedy meets entrepreneurial. What did you prepare? Well, first off, I gotta say, I'm headlining St Pete Beach. I'm headlining sunshine Comedy Club, may 16, 17th. You

Eric Readinger 2:28

expect me to believe that? And yeah, told you, we use it clear

Law Smith 2:32

water. May 30, 31st. Headlining out there the clear water Comedy Club. Let's avoid some Scientologists. Yeah, they

Unknown Speaker 2:42

own everything over there. Man, both clubs

Law Smith 2:44

are fun. They're right in touristy areas, and it so it brings in a good St Pete Beach Club, that Sunshine City Club. It brings in a lot of young kids that you don't see in the area. So I don't know what he does or promote that club over there, but it's kind of nice having, like, a mix of like half the crowds, like under 30. And then after, I don't got new do, new jokes, well, half the crowds, like, you know, just your random tourists that are down in St Petersburg Beach going, ooh, the vinoy is pink, or whatever it is. Oh, the DOM saza is pink. And then clear water is right in the middle of the tourist Trappy area. It was, like, airbrush T shirts and like, all the corny like, kind of key chain? What you want out of clear water with your name from Clearwater Florida? Lot of license plates named board, right? Oh, my name is bored. I thought you were calling me. We need to get a a number, a phone number for this podcast so people can call in, leave some voicemails that we can play. Oh yeah, I know we've pitched this as a thing before and never did it. If you get the number, I'll get the calls. Well, I've got a free one year phone number I've been using through this. Forget some kind of like coupon hiring, coupon company that wanted me to join it, because they think I'm, like, a real executive, right? And so I got a free phone from phone.com I think I can get it for us, but I might have to, you might have to get send it through your email for Okay, but, but yeah, I I was, I've been watching some shows, and I was like, it would be nice if we had some voicemails every now and again, no matter how crazy they are,

Unknown Speaker 4:24

yeah? You know, I'm thinking maybe he ended out in

Law Smith 4:29

class, yeah, but, oh, that would be great. You're gonna have to get consent form, probably for them, unless they're over 13 or over 18, but they can tell them if they do it, they have to do it in a kid's voice or a modulator. You can do it with your phone, because we don't want to be liable for any kids on the show, so not in a kid's voice. Yeah, I'm saying the kids. Like, what wouldn't it I got post workout endorphins, bro, I've been I hit

Unknown Speaker 5:04

that tell your dad what you want and have your dad call. I hit that

Law Smith 5:10

Stairmaster and burned 1000 calories while just trying to come up with stuff for the show. Because I feel like I've been lacking on this pod. We've been lacking, scheduling it, yeah, you're in love. You know that's going to take up a lot of your rams. Rams read. So I want to throw out some some resources. Since we haven't done that in a while, there's two websites where you can honestly make a website and kind of like, legit under five minutes. Okay? And I hit me with it, 10. Web.ai, believe, or.com I can't remember, but I had to migrate in, like the number so one, zero. Web, okay? And it's one of those ones where I had to migrate someone's WordPress site that had a lot of stuff, and what I was able to do is it will make a carbon copy of that website in WordPress, okay? I mean, that's for for anybody who's had to do any website or try to revamp their own or like they need, they need a reef refresh on theirs. And they were just like, I wish I could just kind of start it over on, you know, the updated platform, on WordPress or whatever. That's the way to do it.

Eric Readinger 6:26

I mean, the AI has just got to be so much better at just, it's great extracting the code itself. It scrapes the code, yeah, I mean, and

Law Smith 6:35

any, anything that's live, it pulls that in there. It's crazy dude. Another one I've heard about but haven't messed with, is mod dilfy. Like, M, O, D, U, L, i, f, y.ai, that's another one. That's basically the same thing. Module, module five. Yeah, doesn't really roll off the tongue. You want to just say, DILF.

Unknown Speaker 7:00

I am a low dilfy.

Law Smith 7:02

I am a Delft. I live the DILF lifestyle, right, right? I don't need to say it. It just is anybody who sees my essence?

Unknown Speaker 7:14

No, they get it or up.

Unknown Speaker 7:18

What is the D stand for? Again?

Law Smith 7:20

Dad. Oh, okay,

Unknown Speaker 7:24

what? No, I just would make it

Unknown Speaker 7:26

through. What'd you think it was to work?

Law Smith 7:30

Oh, what does this kill Tony dude, yeah, man, are you roast? Are you a roast guy? Now I was just making

Unknown Speaker 7:36

sure you told me what the right one was, um, another,

Law Smith 7:39

another site I thought was cool for you history buffs, or bruvs. If you bruvs or bruvs are, like, mean, I don't know a lot of history. There's like, it's called Old Maps online.org, you can look up. They're all bullshit. Don't listen to that. Oh no. Oh no.

Unknown Speaker 7:58

Maps, bro, well, it looks more

Law Smith 8:01

like risk the way they lay out the maps, like this. This empire had their this empire had here, oh, it shows like where everybody was, yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of fun. You're a little little toasted at night, kind of dicking around. Can't find anything interesting on Reddit. Yeah,

Eric Readinger 8:16

that's ultimate dad mode, right there. Yeah. I'm just looking at interactive maps online. Get into

Law Smith 8:21

history, baby. It's happening. Yep, I've really, I'm really coming, really coming into my deadness. Yep. Now, when it's World War Two, I start coming in here with a bunch of World War Two stuff you didn't know about. Yeah, that's when I've hit on that. Another one. Start my car.com. If you have a beater car like I do, you have to fix stuff all the time. What this does is it has every manual for every car out there, because you can't it's hard to find, for some reason if your car, especially if your car's almost a classic like mine, yeah, you

Eric Readinger 8:55

can get one of those vintage license plates. Oh, buddy. I'm waiting till I can Yeah, and

Law Smith 9:02

then I'll probably get the cyber truck right after that. But it's one of those things where I had to look up, like the electrical box and fuses and stuff. And it's really hard to find that info, even on YouTube tutorials and stuff, because every car is a little different. This has, like a virtual one you could mess with to see what does what that's cool, yeah, e draw.ai it's given Miro whiteboard a little run for its money. It's got an aggressively awesome, like mind mapping tool. I think, Oh, cool. Hey, man, if you got creative mind mapping like Pixar guys do creative, that's a good tool. V, I d u dot studio. I think it's supposed to be like video, do vid, do video, spell it again. V, I D, u dot studio, okay. Vid, you think of it like video universe Studio. Dot studio. This one, you can put an image, a before image and an after image, and it'll animate it to there.

Unknown Speaker 10:07

That's cool, yeah, yeah, interesting.

Law Smith 10:11

We're gonna play with that one probably later tonight. But that I found, like makes like real video, if you want it to make video, yeah? So that's kind of cool, especially for I've always

Eric Readinger 10:21

had to do a cartoon, but it was always the animation part that came like,

Law Smith 10:27

there is a site, I almost put it on here. I forget what it's called, but there is a site where you can draw something. It'll take the drawing and you can make it animated, like, easily. That's awesome. So there's a lot of stuff out there. And then suno, you made the song. The intro song was soon, yeah,

Eric Readinger 10:44

oh, you want me to hit it? Well, I can tell, you know, glad it turned out from the last time, because we hated it so

Law Smith 10:51

much. No, it was just too loud. And then Sora, I've been playing around with is the chat GPT AI video creator, which it's pretty damn good. I mean, when we first looked at it, when it launched, we're looking at it, we're like, this thing sucks still, and I've been playing around with it for client stuff. And, like, I have a salsa client so, and we have March Madness. So I got it to I got it in chat. GBT make an image of a guy dunking a tortilla chip instead of a basketball, uh huh. And the basketball hoop was, uh salsa, obviously, in a bowl, right? Then I took that image and I go make this animated where he slam dunking it into there,

Eric Readinger 11:35

and put a sombrero on the ref and put, I had to do the

Law Smith 11:39

brand name on the jerseys and like, look like a legit team. Okay, it's pretty cool. That's fine, yeah. I mean, I I barely even I was telling you off my right before we started. I get really frustrated with the AI apps because I'm like, Just do the thing you're supposed to do. I want read my mind. And I go, Oh, this is how my parents are. Yeah, this is how my parents are. I this is push the button burner. This might be an education gap or age gap with technology that it's like when you remember, like, Oh, you don't know any new music coming out, right? Like, I the first time I've heard a jelly roll song was during March Madness, after Auburn lost,

Eric Readinger 12:17

yeah. And I mean, I get the influx via my job, but I

Law Smith 12:24

don't know what they're saying. That's from kids, you know, right? And they like, if you go to anybody, Hey, how was your music? Opinion at 12? You're like, Savage Garden was awesome. Yeah, pretty good.

Unknown Speaker 12:39

I think I still listen to it so, but half of

Law Smith 12:42

it's complete embarrassing garbage. Oh, yeah, speaking of like the band garbage. Count it. Did you do your taxes? I did. Do you use chat GPT to do it? No,

Eric Readinger 12:55

I used text Slayer.

Law Smith 12:58

Yeah, that's what I use for. That's, I think that's what I use for the whole

Eric Readinger 13:03

thing. I mean, I was, I'd have to pay anything that was cool,

Law Smith 13:07

yeah. So I sent you the link I the IRS site used to scare me because it's got the official seal on it, yeah? And you're like, I don't want him to know I'm on here too long.

Eric Readinger 13:17

I mean, it's not like the IRS website's really very good. There's still, because, like, I had some some things that I was like, trying to figure out, and just, it's like, Here, here's a list of the forms you need in plain text, in no particular order with it's just like, they make everything intentionally hard. Like, you look, I was like, I think I said, Fuck you to my computer.

Law Smith 13:51

Case, it's better than I thought it was. There's actually a lot more info out there, on there. It has,

Eric Readinger 13:56

I mean, it's gotten better recently. It's not like how they used to have it with Turbo Tax, the free version buried 14 pages deep, and you gotta click like a maze on the internet and into

Law Smith 14:07

it. I was telling you via slack, it's bullshit now, because all their software has gone up in price like dramatically, because they know they have a million users in each of their at least in all their software.

Eric Readinger 14:19

Yeah, and then it's legacy Shit People don't want to change.

Law Smith 14:23

Oh, yeah for sure. And it's like, if you used mint at one point like I did, to kind of aggregate every transaction for all your credit cards and all your debit card and checking and all that shit, so you have all the transactions listed out in one, one big spreadsheet like that stuff now can easily cross over to Turbo Tax, because they've, like, made the big corporate merger thing, right? In fact, we've already done it for you, and we have all your information, right. But I, I found it interesting they weren't on the list of free. Providers that the IRS has on their site, right? So if anybody's listening, hasn't done it, and if you're in a disaster area, like we had hurricanes, you're automatically extended until, like, I think October. Don't quote me on that, but, like, that was a month May 5. No, it's, it's they make every extensions, like crazy long. Like, if you file for an extension, you could talk to 15 or the 31st I can't remember, but, but for those of you, like in those disaster areas and you can't get it done, that you can hear us through your little baby ear holes on the side of your stupid face, stupid there is, there is eight different softwares that are free for your federal taxes. One has been verified by me. I use tax layer too, because I want to slay them tax, right? I thought it was the coolest name, so I was, like, a year ago, guy, I'm a medieval knight in my head, right? I've got that kind of grit, like heavy metal, um. And then something I found out, here's something fun while doing my 2024 never did my 2023 I had, I had a return file, and it was, I think it was almost all done, and I just didn't press Send or something. I don't know what the fuck

Eric Readinger 16:18

I did. So, oh, Law Smith, we've been looking for you. Then I

Law Smith 16:21

didn't trust it. So then I was like, I'm gonna just redo them all, because I don't know what that thought that return means, but you can go on IRS and go do how outstanding am I? Are all my taxes up to date? Kind of thing. Found out too, 2019 as well. Wow, that I thought slipped, slipped through the grass, that one was for because we, I was married at the time, and thought we did it jointly, and I guess we didn't. And I never, and I never looked

Eric Readinger 16:49

it up. What's the consequences been really? You know, it's

Law Smith 16:53

actually not that bad, you know, I know I already looked up. I was already free. I already did the freak out of like, Fuck man. Penalties on this could be, everybody thinks of Wesley Snipes, like, but I don't make nearly that much, so it's not really on the radar.

Eric Readinger 17:08

I was like, is he in money traveling blade or something we talking about? And I remembered real life, Yeah,

Law Smith 17:13

him and Nick Cage, I think, were like, didn't, just didn't pay taxes for some reason. For

Eric Readinger 17:18

some reason, it's because they had a person who said they were going to do it probably, and then do it maybe, or their manager hired somebody who said they were going to do it. That does happen. Manager didn't follow up, but I bet you that's something they don't even think about. Did you follow my taxes? No, they're not even asking those questions. I just

Law Smith 17:36

saw a meme. Or did you know, fact, with Wesley Snipes and Major League they're like, did you know he was so bad at baseball you can't find any anything of him hitting the ball really, or or throwing it because he's throwing motion so bad. Oh god, that's the worst. But what I did for what was funny is I had the Turbo Tax 2019, like app software. And I went to go download it. I have the activation code still. It's in Intuit Turbo Tax, like your files you have saved in their cloud. And I go, Cool, oh, cool. The activation codes right here, there's the download link. Should be pretty easy, and it didn't work,

Eric Readinger 18:20

and they wanted you to pay back taxes, back fees.

Law Smith 18:23

No, it's even worse than that. So put in the activation code, get this error code 630 I'm like, What the fuck? So I look up what that means, and it's like, oh, that's because you already used it before, or something like that. So it's recognizing it. And I was like, Yeah, but I bought this. I literally bought, like, the case. I had a case with, like, whatever in it, maybe a CD ROM at the time, you know, like, oh, you know, like, the box of, yeah, I used to have to buy them at best, you bought a case for your because they have, because it has the activation code on the inside, yes, because they used to put it on the outside. And people would just go to Best Buy, take a picture and go, Yeah, isn't that funny? Yeah. So, so I try to troubleshoot this for a while, and I'm like, What the fuck? So I get on the phone with TurboTax, and they're like, Oh no, that we only update the last three years. I'm like, I can see you can only do that in there. Like, you can only go back to 2022, or whatever to do your to do older taxes, right? But I paid for this. I don't care about any updates. Clearly, it's connecting to some server y'all have Yeah, to deny me, right? I bought it. No. You can probably look and see no one else has used it, except for one device that was my old MacBook or something, right? Like, I don't care if it's like, I don't need updates any of that. And he's like, 30 minutes of that, and I had to put it on speaker. My kids are listening to me getting, like, turning into a baboon. I'm like, you're not understanding. Like, autistic, like, spectrum. Like, okay, Patrick, who's my name's bad. Eric Patrick, and I'm like, and I'm like, Look, I'm sorry. I'm raising my voice. Your your person. I'm not yelling at you. You can see my frustration with this, right? Because I've already spent an hour previous to us talking, and I'm 30 minutes into talking to you, and it's like, I was like, do you get what's going on here? We did a share screen, all that shit. And he's like, Well, we can refund your money. And I'm like, You, we could have done this. We did this whole fucking tap dance, and that was an option.

Eric Readinger 20:33

But yeah, well, at that point I honestly the way you're telling the story, I didn't think you wanted your money. I thought you wanted your documents. I wanted

Law Smith 20:41

to get it done. I want I was already in that mode of, like, I'm already in doing tax mode, you know, right? And, like, all the short term memory I have from that will go away, like tomorrow if I don't do it soon, yeah. And so, like, what's it called? So I ideally, I just wanted the software right, and then you have to mail it in anyway. So it's like, just, I just need, like, the thing that goes, Did you, did you buy a house this year? Like, I just need those prompts. Yeah, that's what I needed. Don't make me go through the fucking actual forms. Like you're talking about, like, yeah, those forms are I, like, want to barf every time I see them.

Eric Readinger 21:19

I know. What was crazy is, after I submitted mine, how quickly I got a text saying it had been accepted by the IRS same it was like 15 minutes. I was like, That doesn't seem like they even checked it, yeah,

Law Smith 21:31

but then you gotta go on irs.gov and look up if the return is approved, like, they'll go, Yeah, we approved that part. There's a second part. Like, it's like, the Domino's Pizza tracker they have, oh, and the second little chunk baking right now? Yeah, the second chunk is, like, if they approve the return cash, Ronaldo

Unknown Speaker 21:50

is quality checking your order right now.

Law Smith 21:53

Remember when that came out? That was like, mind blowing. I still love it. Yeah, Domino's is underrated. I think, just talk about that. The other day, what were you saying? It's

Unknown Speaker 22:04

better than Little Caesars.

Law Smith 22:06

Oh, my God, Little Caesars is the biggest dog shit. Yeah. And that place is turned into, like, a fucking check cashing place. If you've ever walked into one, really? Oh, dude, it isn't. There are some people that hang out in these little caesars. I've been to that is not because they're not good neighborhoods, right? They're usually in shittier neighborhoods.

Unknown Speaker 22:25

Little Caesar, well, in

Law Smith 22:28

the whole concept of the brand is fucking weird too. Yeah, Caesar. Little one, though, okay,

Eric Readinger 22:37

did the guy who owns Little Caesars pay for, like, Rosa Parks, his apartment for like, her whole life, or some shit. I thought that

Law Smith 22:43

was Domino's. But you could be right. I think a little, I think you're right in Detroit,

Eric Readinger 22:47

yeah, wherever. But, you know, there's that positivity out of it, yeah,

Law Smith 22:53

but I'm just saying Little Caesars. What is the brand world around Caesar? A midget Caesar.

Eric Readinger 22:59

It's Italian kinda, you know, not the cut, not modern Italian, right? It didn't say it was a good Judas coming in with Brutus, right? You know, why stop there? It's, there's better pizzas, but whatever, Caesars, in my opinion, before

Law Smith 23:17

I forget, the thing I was, we were going back and forth about was asking chat, GPT, hey, S corp or self, self employment. Which one should I do? Here's like, here's the broad numbers of what I got going on, right? And it would break down everything for me. And it's like, okay, and like, so I put in like, here's the business income, here's the business expenses, here's some something else that's going to go towards income, like a 1099, miss, and then like, and then I want to be able to have this look good enough to get a business line of credit or business loan after this. So what those are my constraints? What's the best way to go about it? And it would give me a table of it so that, I mean, that's pretty awesome when you're trying to figure out the game of doing your own taxes.

Eric Readinger 24:13

I know I wonder if I just plug in, like, if you start now with chat GPT and be like, Hey, you want to work on a year long project with me, chat. GPT, it would. I'm gonna keep all my here, my my tax stuff, and, you know, by the end of the year, you should have it all done it. How does that sound good? Man,

Law Smith 24:32

that, Oh, that's a good thing. I should mention that I was telling you too is I had all these PDF statements, and I was like, God damn it, this. Put this into a spreadsheet, and it did it, but it didn't do it well. It messed up. And I'm glad I caught it like because it, it won't put it in a it'll put it in a CSV. The comma separated, whatever separated value, yeah, so it'll and not like it. In Google Sheet. Or, actually, if you ask, it'll put it in a Google Sheet. But it still messed it up. And I was like, just, I just want to copy and paste this. Just, just organize it for me. Yeah, and it, I just

Eric Readinger 25:15

get to a level of stupidity that is still surprising. I think, yeah, exactly. It's like, this is the shit you should have learned first chat, GPT, spreadsheets, bro. Well, what you do? I thought

Law Smith 25:28

maybe I used the wrong model, because there's a bunch of different ones on there. Now, they just came out with

Eric Readinger 25:32

4.5 did you use? I use the Fabio model, but grok on X

Law Smith 25:37

is if it might be better, Molly, for a lot of stuff, been waiting for you to mention Gronk. I keep calling it Gronk anyway, holy. Graca moli, but grog on X is pretty damn good, especially with the image generation. If you need something like yesterday, it will it. I was trying to make that Newport. AD, cigarette. Ad, yeah, rollerblading, what

Unknown Speaker 26:00

pictures you're using of us, because

Law Smith 26:05

now that retarded case that was, that was chat GPT. I should have used grout for that. But, like, sometimes chat GPT would be like, we can't do this because of our terms and conditions and stuff. And you're like, Dude, stop being gay. Let me do this. But did you try telling it to stop being gay? I've definitely told it to stop being gay. It's like, you get, like, reprimanded back. And

Speaker 2 26:27

I'm like, gay is a good thing. Did you reprimand it back? Dare you talk to me that way when

Law Smith 26:32

you first had access to this? Didn't you play around with it like that? Like,

Eric Readinger 26:35

not really. I was too scared to upset the overlords. It

Law Smith 26:39

is weird how many people are scared to even try it? And I'm like, just search for something in there. That's all you have to do just to see it like when you're when you're looking up, like, you know, how many Manatees are there in the world? You can't find the answer if you just straight up google it, because it'll just like, manatee sightseeing, Manatee County. Man, it's all SEO gamed,

Eric Readinger 27:02

you know, I heard a fun I listened to a podcast this guy, Jason, George Johnny. I don't even know what his background is. Doesn't matter. He brought up this idea of like, accumulation of information. Like, you know, how they they've like, done things where they, like, have a hard drive, they put information on the hard drive and it weighs point one.

Unknown Speaker 27:28

Oh, yeah, I know grams more whatever. Yeah,

Law Smith 27:31

we did this with legal. It was actually in our agency contracts because it had a tangible difference. If we had something in a cloud for a client that, technically, you could physically have a weight to it, that there was something we had to figure out with that, because, like all our service work is all in the air, right? So it's like, if it goes into a cloud and the other in the person, the client that didn't pay us, is on that cloud and gets it. Is it really stealing? So we had to go through all that because it, when you do put somewhere, there is a physical change somewhere, yes,

Eric Readinger 28:09

yeah. Anyways, yeah. Well, this idea that he had talks about how we keep accumulating day to day to day. And at some point he was saying how these data centers will collapse in on themselves from having too much, and it turns into like, like, some kind of physical, like, black hole. But like, yes, that's, that's the idea like, Bart Simpson, like, like, it would weigh too much. Yes,

Law Smith 28:41

everybody's everybody's grades get worse sitting

Eric Readinger 28:43

around them, yeah, so we got that to worry about now, yeah, as we sit here and create data. Well,

Law Smith 28:52

the thing is, is, and I've been saying this for a long time, remember the martech 5000 I used to show you that infographic of all the marketing data, like platform, suppliers, supply side, demand side, publishers and like, it's an infographic to scale of how big they are. Google's like a tiny hole, a tiny like circle. Oracle is like a little bit bigger, and it's like there's so much data. We're in the era of having data voluntarily given away by users, by us, because we don't know any better, and it's going to at a rapid speed. So compliance isn't really good right now, we're in an era of that. But also at the same time, we don't know how to parse the data. We have all this data out there, right? And we don't know how to use it to we know how to manipulate, manipulate it for certain things, but we have too much out there where it it becomes overwhelming to kind of like, uselessness, right? You're back at square one, yes, with like, might as well get rid of all of it, because it's too muddied. We you take it takes too much time to validate it. You're. Is only, only effective if it's reliable and relevant, right? And if it's not that. Same with statistics, it's like the rule of statistics, if it's not reliable and relevant, it doesn't work,

Eric Readinger 30:11

yeah, so you gotta give them fake birthdays. I remember that from

Law Smith 30:15

my Jamaican professor, get to stand the DVA Shaw, very accent. Alright, last thing we got to rebrand the show.

Yeah, I don't want to do it either, but we got to do it

Unknown Speaker 30:35

right now. Well, I'm

Law Smith 30:36

going to put it in your craw. You know, I

Eric Readinger 30:40

don't care whatever, whatever the ROI podcast,

Law Smith 30:44

we can play with that. At least we can call it something different every time, though, it stands for this. Okay, I think that's fine, sure,

Unknown Speaker 30:53

yeah, and then give us

Eric Readinger 30:56

a little juice for a little while. We'll run out of stuff, and

Law Smith 30:59

we should be doing Patreon, by the way, if you want to support Patreon, people do it not through Apple, because now Apple owns Patreon, and it's taken a 30% cut from the creators, where before it was almost negligible, like 1% so if you want to help, if you want To sign up for Patreon, do it through the site and not through Apple. Apple bought up my my Pixelmator Pro to the Photoshop you hate I use.

Eric Readinger 31:34

I mean, it was just job or job or level. Yeah,

Law Smith 31:38

that's what I needed to do. I know I'm not making beautiful Final Fantasy fan art, right? Have you ever played that grown up?

Eric Readinger 31:47

Yes, I think I did get one of them. It was a lot. It seems pretty nerdy.

Law Smith 31:54

Yeah, it seemed very involved. So, so you're good with whatever. You just don't want to have to do anything.

Eric Readinger 32:03

I mean, yeah, ROI is fine. There's only we

Law Smith 32:06

can. We can trademark it. That's the biggest thing. Okay. I mean, anybody listening to this, if you squat, I'm gonna be so upset.

Eric Readinger 32:15

We'll change it all before we publish this, or we'll be so somebody out there, some asshole out there, go out and just hustle and see if we remembered

Law Smith 32:26

or not. I'll do it when I publish this

Unknown Speaker 32:29

tomorrow, before you publish it,

Law Smith 32:31

yeah, I can go through, yeah, but I think that that that one has the most elasticity to make fun of it, yeah, as much as I like, what was the one you like Business Men's, business mans or something, this

Unknown Speaker 32:47

man's,

Law Smith 32:48

I like that. But I think, I think we have to scoop up any kind of crowd we can with being kind of direct. Yeah, I think if we were like,

Eric Readinger 32:57

as we tap dance around all subjects, Jason Bateman

Law Smith 33:01

and those two other famous guys that would work for that like they're called Smart lists, that's in that vein, but they're already famous. Yeah? You know, easy for them to say. And I think we gotta go back to doing some live stuff. Man. Yeah, live,

Unknown Speaker 33:15

yeah, with you.

Law Smith 33:17

Rebroadcast it. Do it, live it. So it's just hitting every platform, and then we don't have to fuck with it later.

Eric Readinger 33:24

Yeah, man, you remember those days we had energy to do shit like that.

Law Smith 33:28

I'm getting it back. I'm out of my depression phone, so I'm getting back to and I'm trying to make sure a, I don't go back in that hole. But B, also like, get back to the productivity we used to have. Like,

Eric Readinger 33:42

it does make you feel better. It used to be cathartic

Law Smith 33:46

to, like, figure something out for the show or anything else like that was like, Yeah, this isn't making me money, and it's not it's going to improve the show. Like, point zero, 1% Yeah,

Eric Readinger 33:57

no, I know. But it was figure out she had a streak of, like, slowly, this is a little bit better and a little bit better.

Law Smith 34:06

It really helped with other things. When people started asking us, like, Hey, can we hire y'all possibly to do stuff? And you're like, oh, we have a pretty good knowledge of how to do this now, yeah, just by a hobby, almost, yeah.

Eric Readinger 34:19

I mean, there was a point where we had some different people, yeah, you know,

Law Smith 34:24

oh, I mean, I still get inquiries. I'm like, I'll, I'll give you, I will walk you through how to do this on the cheap. And then if you want to do something bigger, we can talk. But so I have, like, all the equipment, all that stuff, yeah, I might need to build out there. Should make that like an ebook and just sell that. Here's, here's how to get this, how to get a podcast going on the fly. There's still people that ask all the time. Here's a good idea, and then sell it for like 99 bucks or something like an ebook. And here's how to do everything. No, no, but. You can make some money off that passive income kind of stuff, you

Unknown Speaker 35:03

know? Yeah, maybe

Unknown Speaker 35:06

write our book $69

Eric Readinger 35:09

when is chat? GPT gonna write our book? We

Law Smith 35:13

just have to feed it the the transcripts and learn how to prompt correctly. Yeah, I think it'll be, it'll be going on the list soon. It's like, Can I get a page a day from one of the episodes, old episodes?

Unknown Speaker 35:29

Be like, here's the website. Just about every episode,

Law Smith 35:33

it won't scoop that. You can't. We have all. We have it all though. I'm just saying, like I was trying to think about it, if it took 20 minutes a day, right? Go grab the transcript. It's going to take a minute to figure out the correct prompt. But I want you to turn this interview into, you know, a page of a book that's about this, you know, copy and paste it every day. Yeah, you're low T, dude. What are we doing? Testosterone.

Eric Readinger 36:06

Low T. If I'm tired, sometimes late, it's seven, it's 813, so they don't know that. I mean, 1813

Law Smith 36:21

Oh, that would make it dope.

Unknown Speaker 36:26

That one you

Law Smith 36:27

you're so tired from watching the Masters all day, I got it. I've been smoking dope. You know, the master trophy is just the clubhouse. What do you mean the trophy for the Masters? Because you think of the jacket, right? Yeah, there was a trophy. No, you get a trophy. And it's the widest looking slave owned clubhouse in a trophy. It's pretty funny. It's funny as shit. It was

Eric Readinger 36:53

like the guy who made the trees, like, Fuck, what am I gonna put on this thing? He's like, five minutes beforehand the first one, well, like, at one point.

Law Smith 37:01

At one point, Washington, DC, Charleston and Savannah were the richest cities in the country because of slaves.

Unknown Speaker 37:09

Wow. We go on

Law Smith 37:10

that Charleston tour. I did it with my

Speaker 2 37:12

mommy. I'm just gonna do racist history from no one. No, I'm talking about a very awkward

Law Smith 37:17

my mom. And I don't do stuff like this. She came up to Charleston visit me. I think I was doing a gig or something. And she was like, I was like, What do you want to do? We don't do anything in common. So, like, I don't go shopping, I don't go antiquing, right? I was like, why don't we do I go this. This is what healthy people do. Let's go on a tour of Charleston. I've never done I don't I've been here a bunch, never gone a ghost tour. And it's like, it's supposed to be hard. Oh, the stockades, those stockades are where all the knickknacks are sold during the day and stuff like that. You're like, Oh, my God, where they used to do auctions, holy shit. Yeah.

Eric Readinger 37:54

You also take that down. The whole city's, like, littered with that, yeah, and it's our heritage. Yeah, get rid of that. You don't need that.

Unknown Speaker 38:03

And we

Law Smith 38:06

are not for it. Just,

Speaker 2 38:07

yeah, oh, we're against that. We don't like that. Just to be clear, we're woke.

Unknown Speaker 38:14

No slaves.

Law Smith 38:16

Well, there's more slaves than ever. Now, technically, we're not on

Eric Readinger 38:18

ours, but no have any do anything. We're not doing that. We just look like we belong on that doesn't matter. I don't matter

Speaker 2 38:28

you more than me, for sure. Oh, that joke hits hard, like, I don't

Eric Readinger 38:33

know, man, I'm getting like, kind of a Eisenhower on the dime, look. Oh no.

Law Smith 38:38

The joke hits so hard. Sometimes I'm like, You guys are you stop laughing that hard? No, you guys are kind of hurt my feelings, right?

Unknown Speaker 38:46

Are you crying? I got are you crying from that joke?

Law Smith 38:48

You look like Walter Goggins the other day, and I was like, fuck, I gotta get a turkey. Oh

Unknown Speaker 38:53

yeah, Walton. I know.

Law Smith 38:55

I corrected him. I go, it's Walton, you fucking idiot. I told you, the best date of all I had about how I look was a little kid at an under privileged school volunteering at in Auburn, Alabama or outside the city. So really, just po Don, Alabama, 10 minutes in, did this volunteering thing you had to do to graduate, or something, 10 minutes in, this kid comes up with a bunch of other kids that hear him, and he goes, Hey, man, you look like American Dad. And I was like, that car team just came out. Dude, no, but I mean, dude just coming out and just swinging a roast on me, like that, and everyone's like, that was a little Korean kid. I know you thought it was otherwise, but

Eric Readinger 39:45

no, that's what I pictured, a lazy kid in Alabama, yeah. All right, they're known for.

Law Smith 39:50

We're done with this, the ROI podcast. We out, oh, boy, oh.

Unknown Speaker 40:20

Word Thank you. Thank.

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